פרסומים אחרונים במדור "חדשות"

Ani meod sameach

It would be nice talking about Human rights as regard to the Arab Israelis but the truth is that many if not most of us feeling unease with the current situation and more important the future one.

Let’s stop being hypocrite.

If we could have the Arab Israelis disappear by some miraculous act then we all would be very happy about. That is the plain truth.
Trouble is that we can not have the Arab disappear from all sorts of reasons that has ALL to do with practicalities.

As it seems to be, the situation as regarding to the Arab Israelis is irresolvable.

The demographic facts are to be work against us sooner or later (sooner I presume). 100 years and more from now we are sure to be flooded under a majority of Arab Israelis no matter what political arrangement will be here then with the outer Arab countries circles.

The demographic fact alone and the democratic nature of the Israeli state will bring the Arab Israeli majority onto controlling position and changing the Jewish natured stat soon after.

Nothing new here and all of us are very much aware of it.

The increase in religious feelings among the Arab Israelis is not helping either. The Muslim belief is intolerable to other religions and highly dominant by nature. The Israeli Muslims Palestinians will not tolerate a Jewish hegemony any more while they have become the majority here.

From those reasons and others it is highly probable that providing the Arab Israelis with more civil rights will not resolve theirs and our problem. It is not the added rights issue that banes the Arab Israelis integrated into our society, it is the fact that we are Jewish nations and they can not stand it, period.
Sure, some small parts in the Arab Israeli society will accept Jewish hegemony here for a while (until their demographic majority will bring the change naturally) but let’s face it, more and more and larger parts in this society will be working against the Jewish natured state, no matter how open for them we may be.

So, then what?

Sure, we can give up our Jewish state identity, much like we used to live during the past 2000 years. Is that a viable option in our view? I do not think so.

Is a transfer of the “interfering” Arab Israeli population is a viable option? Yes, it is! Is it a practical option? No, it is not, from all sorts of reasons primarily an international opposition to such a step.

So, Then what?

The likely scenario is leading to the obvious future acts, a repeated “Separation” steps that will shrink the Jewish state to a minimal “Clean” of Arab area.

Remember the 48th UN division plan for Israel? That is likely to be the Israel of the future.

I am even afraid of thinking about the next step after this scenario has happen.

The question is remaining open if then (only for a while, we will face it sooner then later again)…. A separation from the Arabs by way of shrinking the Jewish state to the state of nil or encourage the Arab Israelis to leave (population exchange perhaps) and keeping our borders intact.

Either way the possible solutions are bringing more, sever stormy times for us.

I thought you live in canada - not that you can't write your opinions.

I share my time between Canada and Israel, so you are partially correct but what that has to do with the issue here?

Ori,

If you have had even a faint idea how much your future was and is depended on people like me you would become humbler.

Have you seen any shadow of request from my side “Begging” you to respond to me?

Who gave you the bright idea that I am looking for your response at all?

I am a bit confused…

I answered to Ori and here we go you the “Haayal the anomaly” popped up

So you have to decide who you are.

By the way are you permitted you guys there using the Tailor Building’s facilities of Givat Ram free of charge? That is an interesting question, don’t you think?

I forgot to mention the big ‘EASY’

So do we have the courtesy of knowing who is who here?

It seems that we hare having here the man with the 1000 faces!

In my previous positing on the issue discussed here I have left an open question in regard to the possible situation between Israel and the Palestinians. It was left open deliberately, a kind of taking added air before jumping into a conclusion.

Though opinions varied (naturally) it seems that the solution is not that far away, provided the other side will go hand in hand with us. But even if we will not get the cooperation from the Palestinians, the road is pretty clear already.

The unilateral “Separation” is not the best idea there is. The “separation” is the best among the bad possible scenarios and that is how we should view it.

Departing from the Gaza Strip is a good place to start with; we never been so keen about this area anyhow, we always know that the “Strip” is the bottom of the Palestinian barrel from all sorts of reasons (we have some contributing part in that as well, admittedly).
A unilateral “separation” from the Gaza Strip is not desirable act it is a reflection of reality. There is no way in the current circumstances that the influential terror organizations there would come to terms with us any how, so why to bother.

It became apparent that the freeze in the political situation between Israel and the Palestinians is playing dearly to the hands of the later. A Political move was right on time and not one moment too early (some may claim that a law suit is the reason – nonsense, it was a must from all the good reasons and coincidentally was in line with the Law suit threat – though it may used as a swifter). The relationship with the US could have been deteriorated severely without such a move and the sloop in the Israel-European Union declining relationships was halted somewhat as a result.

The evacuation (some calling it a transfer) of thousand of Jews, Israelis, brothers, our own people from lands in the “Stripe” is painful, it is a terrible act but we do not have (as it is realistically seems) better choices, not in the Gaza Stripe.
We are all making a terrible mistake by not understanding the settlers stress and agony that is sure to rise as a result of the evacuation (Transfer). Instead of throwing a mud on their faces we have to let them understand that we are with them in their pain and trouble, their pain is our pain, we will make sure that they will be settled in an exchangeable location within the “Green Line” and we will help them in this process.

The bottom line is that we have to get out of the “Strip”, not because this is benefiting the Palestinians but because it is our interest, it will benefit us, Israel. If this Unilateral “Separation” is actually stirring an Arabic regional activity combined with the PA’s by making sure that the extremists will not rise in the “Day After” then the “Unilateral Separation” got the job done by forcing the result we always were aiming at namely: the efficient control of the PA over the Palestinian Extremists.

From the military aspect the “Strip” is containable as well. The “Philadelphi” rout will stay in our hands anyhow and if desired and becomes necessary, in case of Kassems on Sdairot and Ashkelon, we will be always able to surround the “Stripe” with enough cannons batteries, identify the sources of fire in real time, by way of radar of Unman Airplanes, and apply the right retaliation response (A kind of remote pin-pointing elimination). That activity may not halt the firing completely but it will play to our hands in the international arena. Sure there are other remedies in the hand of the IDF but that is not the place to discuss them.

The Western Bank or the “Bank” is a different story. Here we are dealing with the narrow waist of Israel.
Let’s admit it; the Israeli independent (48th) war though ended up in our victory did not make good on the other fronts especially on the soft belly of Israel, the Israel’s center.
If the Palestinians are feeling that free of complaining about the 48th war results what interfering us in claiming the same?

Sure enough, historically the “Bank” was settled by Jews, actually the “bank” was more Jewish in historic times then the sea level plateau. To that extent that we may even suspect that partially we are fighting there our own blood.
Nevertheless, we have to deal with practicalities as well and now we are having the opportunity to correct the 48th mistakes or underachievement.

The suggested solution for the “bank” of concentrating primarily in settlement-defined-areas that is as close as possible to the 49th “Green Line” that widens Israel hips, as well as the Jerusalem corridor, is a good measure, short and long run alike.

The Separation Fence or the “fence” is a fundamental part of the separation plan and rightfully so. The “fence” value is already a proven fact. It is hard to quantify the “Fence” value but it is sure to stop certain amount of terror acts against Israel.
Like it or not, the “Fence” is defining the future borders of Israel so the current rout though it seems sometime out of a treason it is reasonable to the light of the intention poured behind. The “Fence” is prompting the Palestinian (and the world) that Israel is serious in its desires to end up the violence and making a practical separation from them.
At the end of the process some compensation should be granted to those Palestinian residents that suffered damages as a result of the “strange” rout of the fence, nevertheless, this rout should stay as is, while any effort should be applied in minimizing the damages to the residents there that is associated with the “Fence” rout.
Compensation or exchange of lands should left open for the time being. We may want, need, forced to make some exchanges that includes the ‘Wadi-Ara’ and the Arabic “Triangle” and that should be left for the final peace negotiation (whenever that may be)

Two additional major issues should be left for the final peace negotiation: The state of Jerusalem and the Jordan Valley area. On that in others posting.

No, I did not forget the “Right for Return”. I do know very well that this issue is nil, does not exist, nada, gone with the wind. No discussion on that issue is needed or will be done whatsoever.

To those that may ask: “What about the Palestinians, don’t you care about them?” I will answer: yes I do (after all I spent 5 years of my life solely among Arabs), never the less I never forget that my poor are always ahead of the other’s poor.

They probably didn't mean to hurt you; and their behavior, which was ugly indeed, might have reflected their own resentments and stereotypes about you - it does take two for tango.

There are plenty of nasty, uncaring individuals in both nations that would have behaved the same way. If anecdotal evidence provides any relief, I've had similar interactions on the road with people that were unmistakably Jewish. It's called rudeness, and unfortunately, it's pretty universal.

I understand; when I said "similar incidents" I meant incidents in which the other person's behavior on the road was so extreme it was hardly believable that it could be accounted to pure negligence. You were there, and we weren't, but the scenario of an "intentional road accident" still seems farfetched. At most, it would be like all those cases when road rage leads people behind the wheel to want to "teach the other driver a lesson", and in that case, based on my 12-year acquaintance with the Israeli road culture, I would not attribute it to ethnicity or nationalism.