So today is always a bad day for me to answer questions, any question. I usually still recovering from the weekend drinking and I don’t know how efficient I would be.
So what was the question? Oh yeah, do I think that Israelis should have the right to practice Judaism. Sure, as far as I concerned Israelis can believe that there are little red dragons in the sky (with blue and green dots). The problem, however, becomes when these dragons become the justification to the oppression of another nation, the taking of land, and the killing of people.

Let me take a break for a second, ahhh, my head (note to my self, after the revolution it would be appropriate to invent something better than optalgin for hangovers, I have taken five and I still feel like my head is going to blowup).

So anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, superstitions. Do Israelis have the right to practice Judaism? As far as I concerned…..Oh I already wrote that.

So yeah, can Israelis be defined as a nation? Yes. Again, not at the expanse of other people. Jews from America and Israel are part of the same nation just as much as Muslim from Egypt and a Muslim form Indonesia are from the same nation. Your country have gave citizenship to thousands of Russians who some of them only had a distance Jewish relative, while denying the same right to people who have been living here for years.

What do you mean by “Jewish character of the Israel”? A state should be governed by secular laws. Not by some biblical idealist notion of morality. If people want to practice a different religion that’s fine, I just don’t see what the government has to do with that. if tomorrow a person would come and tall you that he thinks that the Jewish state should allow man who rape women to marry those women, or to pay them some money as a conseptation ( a law that was written in the “holiest book” delivered from the almighty god) you would paunch him in the face (or at least I hope you will). Why is that law more ridicules from laws who insure privilege and rights only to people from a certain religion?

Religion is just a manifestation of the conditions that exist under capitalism. For the oppressor it is the justification for these conditions, for the oppressed it’s the promise that some day in another world they might get a better life (generally speaking).

So yes, Israelis should have the right to practice their culture as long as they do not do it at the expanse of other people (did I wrote that already?).

So what was the question again?

I’m surrey about the confusing brother, but it seems that the way that Israel defines nationalism is religiously. This is problematic in a country that provides special privileges only to people from a Judaist religion. And even if that was not true, it would be problematic to define nationality by religion. I due feel that there is no difference between saying that Jews in America and Russia are from the same nation, and saying that a Muslim from Indonesia and a Muslim from Harlem are from the same nation.

I always try to do a couple of lines of cocaine before I drive drunk, it comes down the ecstasy that I took before I started drinking.

Israel does define its nationality religiously. If someone in Russia has a distance relative who is Jewish he would become an Israeli citizen. If an Israeli citizen will marry a European this European will become an Israeli citizen. On the other hand if an Israeli-Arab or an Israeli marries a Palestinian the Palestinian partner would not become a citizen. In some cases your government denies citizenship to people who were burn in Israel. I’m not even going to go into the whole fact that the Palestinian refugees are denied the same rights that Jewish immigrants get.

In France you would not become a citizen just because you are a catholic, and if a France person wants to marry you, you will become a French citizen.

The contradiction that you are talking about between a secular country and the definition of citizenship by religious criterions is indeed very problematic.

This is just one racist law practice by the state of Israel. But if any other state would grant rights to other citizens based on the color of their skin or their religion it would be racist.

The French exercise racism towards the undocumented African immigrants that they use as cheep labor. This has led to a couple of rebellions by immigrants in France.

Brother, as much as I enjoy this discussion, I’m a busy man, and we would need to separate our ways in the near future. So why don’t you reply to me, I will answer, and you can end this discussion? Kapish?

Have you seen this?
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/848620.html
What’s more interesting is not who did this, but the comments by Israelis to the article.

Take care,

And I again, I disagree. A French person can marry who ever he wants; the French government would not deny him the right to marry an African person and to live in France, since that African person might threaten the “French character” of the French nation. I think that the discrimination against Palestinians and Arabs is connected to the ethnic cleansing that the Israeli government is trying to impose inside the borders of Israel.

I don’t understand why you feel that if Israel will become a two nation state, your language and culture will disappear. Do Arabs have some kind of genetic dieses that force them to hate Israelis or to try get reed of the Israeli culture? Again, we should not have to choose between an apartheid state ruled by corrupt leaders, and an Islamic theocratic state. We should fight for a better future, something better than these two alternatives. A state that can not only provide the means for everyone to live, but can also allow two cultures, the Palestinian and the Israeli, to coexist respectfully.

If I was you, I would take notice at how your culture is actually changing do to the militarization of your society. To the violent and sexist mentality that Israelis develop as a direct consequence of the occupation of Palestine.

So my friend, we both disagree, so what is left? Or as Lenin once wrote “What is To Be Done?” (Ahandruty Roy)

Let’s end with an understanding.
Understanding by you, on the one hand, to my aspiration and dedication to those millions of people in the third world who are dieing from preventable dieses, those millions of people who are not provided with the means to survive, and are starving daily. Those millions of people who are working day and night to provide us with cheep shoes and clothing, with food and other necessities. Those millions of people whose faces we never see, and scream’s we never hear.
And an understanding by me, on the other hand, to your love to your culture. To your worry to lose this amazing language that we call Hebrew. These bountiful traditions and texts, and all the good things about the Israeli mentality, (are you selling your car?).

I can tall you that I would never want to live in a place where Israelis would not be allowed to practice their culture. I would never want to be part of that future.

I would like to thank you for the opportunity to have this debate with you, I definitely learned a lot from you, and I hope that have leaned something from me. I would like to end with a statement by Victor Frankl, who once wrote that:” It’s not the question of what is the meaning of life; the question is what does life demands of us.” (I’m elaborating)

I’m looking forward to see you here in the future.

Take care,